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How to Create a Successful Online Business in a Niche That Has Nothing To Do with Business

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Miriam is an artist and small business owner. She is always crafting plans for her business. She has greatly evolved her art making business and now design products with her art that has a more modern and contemporary vibe.

After 911 she jumped ship and left her fancy job on Wall Street to be an artist.

But she kicked the "starving artist" persona straight to the curb and has proven that you can absolutely have a successful online business without teaching business stuff.  

Miriam suggests to have your own site with your outstanding brand and messaging - it’s a way that you don't have to compete with Etsy’s (and other bigger markets) lower prices so you can offer something that's very exclusive and very high-end and personal.

When she first started her business and doing Facebook ads, just targeting the right audience makes the difference. The next thing she did was putting a video series together with her launch and that worked really well with her audience.

For the people who are coming to her for the art classes, she gives them a step by step on how to learn a painting process. Her philosophy is that they shouldn't be learning how to copy a project, but how to learn a process.

She invests in her business - in learning, support and coaching. These are just necessary steps to scale the business. When she invests to things/people/course, she uses this formula: Is the nudge going to bring me in x number of people? What is my break-even on it?

She suggests the book Overdeliver: Build a Business for a Lifetime Playing the Long Game in Direct Response Marketing by  Brian Kurtz

One of the things that made her stand out to her audience is by sending them snail mail. She said that it is something that really all of us should be considering. Recently, she sent out a hundred mail pieces and costs her about a hundred dollars and she made about $6,000 on it. 

“Sometimes these things that we do, it may not get you that intended result , but then it has a ripple effect later down the line” - one client of Miriam that received the snail mail didn't take her up on her particular offer that was mentioned in the mail but joined her other course. The client also mentioned that it made her feel special to get something in the mail and says that she wanted to be coached from like someone like Miriam, to learn from her - on how to treat customers.

We couldn’t resist: The Real Housewives dish!

RESOURCES

Book recommended by Miriam, "Overdeliver" by Brian Kurtz 

Miriam's book "A Writer's Sketch" 

Miriam's podcast: The Inspiration Place 

Real Housewives Barbies on Instagram 

Real Housewives "Watch What Crappens" podcasts 

 
 

Confidence Coach Susie Moore Shares Her Rockstar PR Tips (and A Challenge!)

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Susie Moore is a New York based confidence coach and author. She’s been featured everywhere (really) and figured out how to get all that media attention without a degree or a PR machine behind her. She teaches others how to pitch and “guest post” at outlets that will get you noticed!

Susie breaks down why she decided to start her side-hustle (now full time) and why getting free media was her only strategy in the beginning.

Find out why going after big media outlets is a better option, and the simple strategy Susie used.

She also shares her mind-set that enabled her to go for it (front row style) and the 2 key questions to ask yourself.

Game. Changer.

Hear why starting small isn’t the best strategy. It’s so simple, you’ll wonder why this didn’t think of this yourself.

Susie didn’t hold back with the how-to details. She shares the 4 key steps to getting incredible (free) media coverage and how to leverage it so it doesn’t just make you famous but translates into business.

She also shares how to pitch, along with who to contact and where.

While she admits that almost anything will work if you throw enough pitches out there, she explains how she does for herself and how you can do the same thing. It’s not as hard or as time-consuming as you think.

Bonus: This one strategy has yielded incredible results for Susie’s clients and she shares real-life examples. Mind-blowing simplicity, with incredible results here.

Be prepared to take notes as she outlines how you can take evergreen content (your best stuff) and match it up with a hot-in-the news-story going on right now. This will position you as a sought-after expert and give you a huge boost in visibility.

Plus, she’s the queen of repurposing content! She shares 6 specific things you can do today with content you’ve already created! No need to spend energy on new content when you have articles and posts or videos ready and waiting to be highlighted again.

This is genius and something you’ll want to do today!

Susie shares how we self-sabotage by making things much more complicated than necessary. In fact, she has 2 questions she asks when starting something new:

Let me know your takeaways, after you listen!


Jen Chats with Seth Godin about Marketing and More

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1:20                

Check out the Seth quote that’s been on Jen’s website since day one! “How can you squander even one more day not taking advantage of the greatest shifts of our generation? How dare you settle for less when the world has made it so easy for you to be remarkable?”

Jen:                

Do you still agree with this?

Seth:              

More than ever! The chances that individuals have to speak up and be heard have never been bigger.

3:35                

Your book made marketers feel good. That our work really matters.

Jen:                

Does marketing really matter? The work of marketing? Is it something that can leave a legacy?

Seth:              

Every single person who has done work that mattered has been a marketer. Seth explains why this is true today and gives great historical references that will surprise you. Marketing is about sharing good ideas that matter, and ideas that will change how we look and think about the world. If our work is going to matter, it’s up to us to use the tools to uplift or tear down or we can use them to connect or to separate. It’s up to us to use the tools in a way that you are proud of. Yes, it matters.

4:50                

You talk about the smallest viable audience. It was good to read that I don’t have to have an email list of 100K. Can you talk about that?

Seth:              

The idea of mass works when you can get it at a discount. That’s not possible anymore. And people don’t want average products anymore. The path instead is to ask what is the smallest group I can live with that has a unique connected set of values, desires, dreams and fears? How do I delight that group? 

6:44                

How do we deliver “above average?” How do we bring out our actual magic?

Seth:              

What I can point out is the effort you need to bring out your actual magic is worth the journey. What we know is that with awareness and persistence you can develop skill and if you aim that skill in a specific direction you can become a “meaningful specific” instead of a “wandering generality.” h/t Zig Ziglar.  x way to get above average results is to be obsessively focused on a small group of people who want to hear from you.

8:47                

You also talk about the magic of good enough. Can you talk about that? 

Seth:              

Certain things have to be significantly beyond good enough. That’s what makes them remarkable. Everything else just has to be good enough. Hear the breakdown and insights that help you determine when each is required. What is it that you want to own? What is it that you want to do? Everything else can be good enough.

10:00              

I love what you say about authenticity. Some buzz words have been used so much that they have lost their impact. Authenticity feels like that to me.

Seth:              

Authenticity is a distraction. If we are hiring a professional to help us, like an attorney, we are not seeking to know about that person’s life. We want them to make a promise and keep it. That’s what we buy. Seth shares some tough love advice about taking a stand. Why consistent wins over authentic.

12:50              

You have said that culture beats strategy so much that culture is strategy. Can you clarify that?

Seth:              

Strategy is supposed to be like playing chess. I love strategy. But what’s really going to determine how everyone acts everyday is going to be the culture. Seth shares the Starbucks example and why the message was meant to impact the culture. The culture becomes the strategy because that’s what the company stands for.

14:38              

The conversation about pricing was a big relief. Can you talk about that?

Seth:              

Price is a story. It is not based on what something costs. You are paying because the price is supposed to help you understand what the thing is supposed to be. Many people wrestle with pricing because they don’t believe they are worth it.

It’s not up to you to decide, it’s up to the customer to decide. There are lots of customers that would prefer the responsibility and status that comes with paying more than to be the person who buys the cheapest thing.

Charge what you need to charge to do work you are proud of. That will find you the customers who are ready to pay that. No one will pay it because you deserve it or because you are working hard. They are going to pay it because it makes them feel they did something smart.

20:15              

We can also relate this to the freelancer/entrepreneur who could commit to having clients invest at a higher level. 

Seth:              

If you don’t believe that what you are offering is worth it, please stop offering it! Let’s start there. If we think our service is worth $100 but we are charging $50 then it’s a gift.

We’ve talked about entrepreneurs and freelancers. I want you to clarify the difference for us. Also, I often hear people who feel like they have a real business.

Seth:              

There is a difference between entrepreneurs and freelancers. Entrepreneurs build something bigger than they are. They are building an organization that one day they can sell. Freelancers get paid when they work. They do the work with their own two hands.

If you are an entrepreneur, don’t do the work! Your job is to hire people to do the work. Your job is to build systems and processes so that you make money when you sleep. It’s so you can make an impact on a bigger scale.

The people who don’t feel like they have a business are freelancers. And that’s okay. Find clients who will pay you appropriately or spend time getting better at what you do.

23:14               

Why is asking “how do I get the word out” the wrong question?

Seth:              

Because it’s selfish! It’s like saying if everyone knew what I did, then I’d have lots of business. You already have a small group of clients that you are serving. Why aren’t they telling others? Solve that problem.

If your customers are telling others, then you don’t have a getting the word out problem. If that’s not happening then the work is inherently private (so people don’t talk about it) or it’s not remarkable enough for people to share it. Solve that.

Rapid Fire Questions

These questions are about a variety of things that I wanted to ask. Some are personal, some are about Seth’s methods and I ask about some of his favorite things. His answers are amusing, and truthful and they’ll make you think.

24:30              

Seth’s heroes. An impressive list of people who understand how to navigate how ideas spread. People who show up because they choose to not because it’s easy.

25:55              

The best advice Seth ever received!

26:04              

Are you on Social Media?

26:28              

Are you addicted to your phone like the rest of us?

27:05              

How do you write the blog posts? Do you batch them? How have you maintained the consistency?

27:55              

What career would you be doing if you hadn’t chosen marketing?

28:17              

Do you have morning routines? Good advice here – and not what you’d expect!

30:25              

How do you come up with such good metaphors?

31:30              

What’s your favorite book? He made a recommendation for our listeners.

31:48              

What’s the first things you’d do if you were starting a business today? This answer is incredible.

What’s your favorite podcast?

32:54              

What’s your favorite thing? He shares a real insight about why he does the work and why it’s so meaningful to him.

33:35              

What is the ALTMBA?

Final words: Keep Making a Ruckus!

 LINKS:

Seth’s Podcast

altMBA

The Art of Possibility

 

 

My Takeaways from Social Media Marketing World 2018

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To listen to this podcast episode, go to http://jenlehner.com/ten

I just returned from Social Media Marketing World in San Diego and in this blog I thought I would share with you what I learned. Now, the thing about this conference and so many conferences is that for every one session you attend there's like a dozen others that happen at the same time. This is just a small slice of the conference from my very singular vantage point. If you're a regular listener of my podcast, The Front Row Entrepreneur, as regular as you can be when they're only 10 episodes, you know that I have this thing about the front row literally and metaphorically.

Metaphorically having a front row mindset means you're ready to step up. You want to see and be seen. You aren't wasting time being half-assed or non-committal. You're all in and literally, I believe that sitting in the front row like at a conference is really key to your enjoyment of the conference. When you sit in the front row, you see and hear the speaker better and there are a lot of other advantages as well. Let me give you a couple of examples. I attended this really exciting YouTube session led by this man, brilliant marketer named Billy Gene and of course I was sitting on the front row and at some point, he asked a question and asked us to shout out the answer. I shouted out my answer and while there might had been others in the room who shouted the same thing, I'm the person he heard first cause I was in the front row. After hearing my correct answer, he surprised me with a nice crisp $100 bill. No kidding. In other sessions there were times when I wanted to meet the speaker afterwards and of course being closest meant I was the first in line. 

You know how after someone talks and especially if they're super engaging, then people go up to the front and they sort of stand in a queue to meet the person who was speaking. I didn't have to wait in that line because I was first to get there. At the closing keynote, Pat Flynn asked a question about new kids on the block or in sync. I don't know, one of those boy bands who I guess are still together and the woman in the front shouted out the right answer and Pat surprised her with two VIP tickets to Las Vegas to see whoever that boy band was. And finally, I've noticed that when I sit in the front row, the people who are sitting beside me or like-minded, they're go-getters. At each session, I think I really did my best networking just talking to the people on either side of me. 

The conference head Honcho and CEO of social media examiner, Mike Stelzner, opened up the event with a keynote that was basically the equivalent of dumping ice water on our heads but it was a good thing. It was really, I think the wake-up call we all needed to hear because he was talking about the Facebook algorithm and what these changes are likely going to mean for us who rely on Facebook to help fuel our businesses. He reminded us that Facebook flat out told us that we're going to see for sure if you haven't already a decrease in traffic across all of our Facebook business assets, groups, messenger, your Facebook page, everywhere. But he not only gave the audience a glimmer of hope. I've found myself so excited. I was ready to jump out of my chair because he said, and I agree that small is the new big, meaning, a smaller, more relevant and engaged audience is more valuable than a larger, less engaged audience. 

Facebook wants to see repeat viewers to our content and by content, he really was referring to videos. He said that it's time to go all in on video, specifically short-form video storytelling is the future. He said, and he told us to start thinking about creating episodic content like your own show and Mari Smith session, which I'm going to talk about more in a minute, but she echoed this and also encouraged us all to go ahead and fill out our applications for Facebook Watch now, even if we don't already have a show, to do this, just search Facebook Watch application in the search bar and you'll see it. Also worth mentioning. Stelzner said that vertical video with the sound on is the most watched video of all right now. I attended a few podcasting sessions, but even if you aren't interested in podcasting, you might appreciate a few of these takeaways. 

Cliff Ravenscraft, AKA a podcast answer man mentioned a resource called cj.com, which stands for commission junction and it's a site that allows you to sign up to be an affiliate for a wide variety of products and services and online tools and such. If you'd been toying with the idea of dipping your toe into the water of affiliate marketing, you might want to check that out. I also like some of the mindset stuff that he shared. He talked about being very in debt at one point in his life. His wife lost her job and they had just had a baby and he said he just decided that he was going to be the kind of person who always earns at least $10,000 a month and he said sometimes he would be close to the end of the month and he would've only have made $7,000. He'd get busy. To make up the difference that $3,000 and if that seems so simple and maybe even unrealistic, but the truth is if you have any sort of skill, it would be possible to do this. I mean we might have to pick up the phone and call 100 people and say, “Hey, I've got a few coaching or consulting slots open. Are you interested? Or I have a few slots open to do this service for you. Are you interested?” But it can be done. He also said that he told himself a long time ago that he would be the kind of person who always paid his bills on time. That or in other words, he would never be the kind of person who didn't pay his bills on time and I just thought it was interesting that in both of those scenarios he made these traits part of his identity. It wasn't just a behavior or the money that he wants to make every month. That wasn't just an arbitrary number. It was who he decided to be so I just thought that was very interesting

In another podcasting session with Michael O’Neal, who hosts the Solopreneur Hour podcasts. I learned a lot of great new things. First, if you're thinking of doing a podcast, do a search and see if it's trending, where the audience is and what do they want to know. He gave an example of this dentalpreneur podcast where a dentist shares marketing tips with other dentists and it's really hugely popular and he also reminded us that as podcasters we can often get media passes to conventions and conferences that are in line with our podcast topic. I had never knew that then he gave some really great interview tips like make sure you pronounce your guest's name correctly by searching YouTube for videos of that guest saying their own name or whatever video. I thought that was a great tip and he says before your interview, look through social media to learn a little bit about them personally and find something they love that isn't related to their business. Do they love sailing or scuba diving? Just something so that when you begin the conversation, you can start with that and then this opens them up for the rest of the interview. He recommends jumping on video, first degree your gas, but then switching to audio only since audio only is really much more intimate for listeners and he said that his interviewers, it's up to us to ask what they're promoting and to get their appropriate links. We should not make our guests have to promote themselves. We should do the promoting. I thought that was really interesting. You know, I'm a new podcaster. I've only done a handful of interviews, so this was very enlightening to me. I also thought it was interesting that he said that the last thing out of our mouths when we introduce our guests should be their names and that he pointed to like talk show hosts the tonight show, whatever, where that's how it's done. So you would say, “Ladies and gentlemen, bestselling author, blogger extraordinaire and founder of Blah Blah, blah, Seth Godin”, I guess it makes the person's name more cemented in the listener's ears. He said that the time to ask guests to promote your show that they were just on his right after the interview, because they're all feeling good that the interview went well so you say, “Hey, would you be willing to share this podcast with your audience?” And usually, he said, they'll say yes and then on the day that is published, you send an email and say, "Hey, here's the podcast. Thank you so much for promising to share it with your audience. I appreciate it." He said that word promising is key. I don't know. I don't know if I've got the guts to do that, but I bet it does work.

Another podcast panel I attended really sparked some ideas for me, Gary Leland, co-founder of podcast movement. He was on this panel and he shared how he finds a niche and a product. Then he creates the podcast as a marketing vehicle for the product. For example, he found a wallpaper company or his wife had this wallpaper company that she just loved and then he started a podcast called fixer-upper and it's aimed to do it yourself first and he has all sorts of do it yourself guests like people who specialize in different kinds of do it yourself projects. But throughout the podcast he promotes the wallpaper on his show and he says he's got another podcast that is all about women's fast pitch softball, I guess he's like a big um, softball enthusiast, fast pitch softball enthusiasts and he sells sporting equipment on that podcast. There's no other sponsors, just his product and I thought it was interesting. We tend to think of the topic first and then figure out how to monetize it, but he does it in reverse and apparently, he's doing really well.

In the YouTube session with Billie Gene, he said his favorite type of YouTube ads are in-stream ads. He really wanted us to know that creating custom audiences on YouTube can be done just like on Facebook. You can upload your contacts and target them directly plus everybody is advertising on Facebook, not so much on YouTube. He says we're overlooking a huge opportunity. I do plan to definitely dive into YouTube ads in the near future and I'll keep you updated on that.

In Mari Smith's Facebook session, she pointed out that there is still a profound opportunity for marketers. So this was sort of the antithesis to the ice bath that we got with Mike Stelzner, but she says 70,000,000 businesses have pages on Facebook and only 6,000,000 of those people are advertisers. Other interesting tidbits that she shared with us are Facebook lives get six times more engagement than regular video. She said Instagram is Facebook's next Facebook. She was saying that it inside Instagram we can make in-app purchases, which is really huge when you advertise on Instagram. The swipe up feature is available even if you don't have 10,000 followers. She said that the boost button boost post button is coming to groups, but actually a lot of people already have. My Assistant, Neeca, already has this feature in the Philippines, so I don't know if it's going to be a good thing or a bad thing. I am looking forward to trying it. She told us to keep our eye on WhatsApp, you know, WhatsApp is owned by Facebook and in China they do everything inside of WeChat.  WhatsApp is the Messenger App of choice in the rest of the world.  Facebook owns it and she said there's going to be a lot of opportunity for us with WhatsApp. We need to keep our eyes on that. Then she talked a lot about the episodic content and Facebook Watch and when she asked people in the audience how many people were watching that unique programming on Facebook, only about like 12 people in the room raised their hand and she said that next year she guesses that like 60 to 70 percent of the room will be raising their hands because it's just that they're moving fast with this Facebook Watch and they're coming for Netflix, YouTube, Amazon and Hulu. They want original content, dedicated eyeballs, and Facebook's advantage over all those others is that it's built on a social platform. 

She said there's going to be a huge increase in exclusive streaming rights. She gave the example of how the India Premier Cricket League, Facebook bid to have the live streaming rights, $600,000,000 and lost to Rupert Murdoch at who bid $2,600,000,000 for this one event, Cricket. Why is all this important? She said that Facebook right now is where YouTube was eight or 10 years ago. We don't see it yet because they're still trying to find their way, but they're going to get there, she says. She also recommended that we start thinking more like screenwriters not like buy my stuff, copywriters and like Mike Stelzner, she said, we need to be focusing on episodic content. She said to win, we need the right strategy, the right tools, the right templates, the right content, the right targeting, and the right engagement. 

With regard to messenger and bots, she said that she was worried because when the quote, when the marketers move in, the members move out and she stressed that when it comes to conversational commerce, I really liked that phrase, conversational commerce. It's all about how you make people feel. I agree. She says to act, think and feel like a member first and a marketer second. I agree with that whole-heartedly. Relationships first, business second. Yes, yes, yes.

Pat Flynn's closing keynote was fantastic. If you don't know Pat Flynn, he's the creator of smart passive income and you'd be hard-pressed to find anybody who just doesn't absolutely adore him. He's so likeable. His talk was all about creating super fans by really loving on your peeps and also creating experiences for them and surprising them from time to time. I have to say this has been my mos is the beginning and while I'm no Pat Flynn, that has worked really well for me. When you genuinely love what you're doing and the people you are servicing, it's actually not something you really have to think about. Is it? And aside from his awesome dance moves and just overall adorableness, my biggest takeaway was a tool that he mentioned called Bonjoro. It's a tool that allows you to send personalized video messages to your peeps. He gave this example of how ConvertKit does this and I think they have like one person and that is just his dedicated job. Every time someone signs up with ConvertKit, they get this email, they get this video and it's personalized. It will say like, "Hey Chuck, this is bill over at ConvertKit. I noticed you signed up with us. Thank you so much for putting your faith in us. I took a minute to go look at your webpage and I see that you run your website on a WordPress site and so I've attached a tutorial video that shows you how to easily connect, ConvertKit with WordPress and if you have any questions or you know, just hit reply on this email." and man, I mean what a great touch. 

He showed a graph or a bar chart of the correlation of how long people stay with ConvertKit since they've been doing this a compared to how long they stayed with ConvertKit prior to that, people would sign up for the free trial and drop off before they ever really implemented and actually subscribed and upgraded. I thought that was really compelling. There are other free apps that do this, but what I'm learning with this app in the short amount of time that I've been experimenting with it is that it allows you to integrate with your CRM. When someone purchases something from you or opts into your list, the APP creates a checklist for you and then you can quickly move through the checklist and send these personal messages to people. I have to say that as great as this conference was, and it really was, my favorite thing was meeting so many of you in the front row. 

We had a lot of people show up at our Front Row meet up for dinner, and it was just a blast to meet people in person who I've only known virtually up to this point. It's sort of surreal actually. If you aren't yet a member of my free online classroom, the Front Row, please head over to frontrowclassroom.com and join today and that link will take you there. I'll let you right in.

 

Gary Vaynerchuk and James Altucher Will be Guests on My Podcast

 
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The craziest thing. I've been planning to launch a podcast for a while now. But I wasn't planning to do this until December 2017. Then, yesterday, I was taking a walk and listening to Gary Vaynerchuk on James Altucher's podcast.  Out of the blue, Gary V announces that if we (the listeners) start a podcast right now and launch two episodes, he will appear on our podcast for 5 minutes. Then Altuchers pipes in "me too". 
I take them at that word. So today, I spend 16 hours learning how to edit, how to create intros and outros, how to publish to iTunes and Stitcher, and I've got myself a podcast. 

Tomorrow, I will launch episode 2, and send a tweet to Gary V and Altucher. 

Even if they don't make it on the podcast, the good news is, I've got a podcast!

Have a listen: